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Boris v Tolpuddle/ Trafalgar Square 25th April
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 11:53 am    Post subject: Boris v Tolpuddle/ Trafalgar Square 25th April Reply with quote

I have a feeling this may generate some discussion, so I've placed it here rather than on the Late Breaking News board. This from Dick Muskett of the annual Tolpuddle festival held each summer in Dorset.

London roots aficionados will see an interesting ideological tug of war on April 25. A group of Islington residents including one of the organisers of the annual Tolpuddle Martyrs summer festival in Dorset are planning to commemorate the 175th anniversary of a monster march that formed up on Copenhagen Fields, north of Kings Cross. 100,000 unionists marched to Parliament to demand a free pardon for the six Dorset farmworkers who had been sentenced to transportation for forming a union.

To celebrate Londoners support for the Martyrs, there will be an afternoon of music and speeches in Edward Square off the Caledonian Road, featuring Billy Bragg and friends. Now, Boris the Mayor has decided he will celebrate St George's Day by arranging a concert of English folk music in Trafalgar Square the same day.

No acts have been announced yet but Boris's budget is likely to be bigger than that available to the group organising the afternoon in Islington - in fact whatever he spends is likely to be 100% more than the cost of the Tolpuddle commemoration. The question is - who symbolises the traditions of the English working people best? Boris Johnson or the Tolpuddle Martyrs? Go figure... http://tolpuddlekx.wordpress.com
  
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 12:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some years ago, Boris and Bill were co-panellists on Question Time and Boris accused Mr Bragg of hating him because he had more money. The incensed Bard informed Boris that he hated him because he was a TORY and anyway. had quite enough money because he was a popsinger.

I shall await with interest to see who (if anybody) decides to take the gig in Trafalgar Square. I know where I'll be.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 12:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

diane easby wrote:
I shall await with interest to see who (if anybody) decides to take the gig in Trafalgar Square.

Hardly likely to be a good career move, I'd have thought. Still, rumour has it that the band once lovingly anagrammed in Southern Rag as Wardeaths are still going . . .
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 12:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Still, rumour has it that the band once lovingly anagrammed in Southern Rag as Wardeaths are still going . . .


Data Shrew?
The Awards? (they sound like quite hip bands actually)

I remember some coverage from Glastonbury one year with a feature on Billy inviting Boris to come to the festival with him. Cue Boris hanging round the Leftfield stage and the Greenfields Teepee area being harangued by passers by. I wonder if it's on youtube...
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 12:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ian wrote:
...rumour has it that the band once lovingly anagrammed in Southern Rag as Wardeaths are still going . . .
I wish people'd stop being so coy, especially as I can't work anagrams out. Although I did come up with ed shat raw, which was maybe Ian's reaction to this news.

At the very least, it's interesting to compare the actions of 175 years ago (100,000 workers mobilised in the face of state repressions) to the present (100,000 more workers getting sacked every few weeks).

Boris Johnson and his ilk are most definitely Little Englanders, mixing nationalist senti-mentalism with political opportunism. Trafalgar Square will be the place to avoid, that's for sure. No problem for me, but will no doubt cause a major dilemma for the Government faces. Can anyone see them commemorating historical actions of the working class? God no, next thing you'll know, it might be happening in the present - and they couldn't have that, could they?
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 12:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I should also mention that on the real St George's Day, 23rd April (trust Boris to get it wrong), Sam Lee's getting together a gig at Cecil Sharp House featurng a couple of names who will be on the cover of the May fRoots, published that very day. More later . . .
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 12:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ian wrote:
I should also mention that on the real St George's Day, 23rd April (trust Boris to get it wrong)
Maybe he's confusing it with Hitler's birthday.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 2:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Norman wrote:
ian wrote:
...rumour has it that the band once lovingly anagrammed in Southern Rag as Wardeaths are still going . . .
I wish people'd stop being so coy, especially as I can't work anagrams out.


Aw c'mon, are you all so young? The band who used to specialise in "foreigner bashing" songs, who Dick Gaughan didn't like one bit . . .

This was back in the days of great anagrams made in heaven, such as Elmer P Bleaty, Yah Such Thin Legs and The Rubbishy Song And Tune Cell . . .

But I digress from the subject in hand. Slaps self on wrist . . .
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 2:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Idea I figured it out... with the help of some bloke called Andy who clearly has too much time on his hands:
http://www.ssynth.co.uk/~gay/cgi-bin/nph-an?line=WARDEATHS&words=2&dict=eng&doai=on
(it's near the bottom)
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 2:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Of course! I wish I were so young, etc. Roughly translates as Dummkopf.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 4:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Washed Rat?

(yes, I did get it...)
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 5:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Head Warts... featuring that famous old folkie Lemmy on bass (probably). Confused
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2009 9:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

'shush cheatingly' using Kev's find of Andy's anagram solver, here are some suggestions for 'Yah Such Thin Legs"

sightly haunches
unchastely highs
chastely hushing
chinless haughty
hatcheling hussy
haughty chinless
shush cheatingly

although Mr Hutching's anagram should start 'Ya' not 'Yah' which yields similar results as above too
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 12:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

C Potts wrote:
Mr Hutching's anagram should start 'Ya' not 'Yah' which yields similar results as above too

Count your 'H's . . .
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 13, 2009 9:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

To me Wardeaths were more like light opera than folkmusic anyway.

Definately Boris music though.

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